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Whoops, so I forgot the most important part of my epiphany: how I came to it in the first place! [info]bitchygurl jogged my memory about that, and this is what I said to her in comments:

Oh derr, I forgot the key part of my epiphany! Which totally relates to this and is: I say I want to be pursued, but I have had a problem with every guy who's ever pursued me. I've been in painfully few relationships, gone on a pathetic number of dates in comparison, and mostly all with guys who pursued me. And I've shut down 98% of those dates/relationships. So I was discussing this tendency with mailekai one day, and I thought--"well, self, maybe you actually don't like being pursued. Have you ever thought about that?"



Or, perhaps I don't like the types of guys that want to pursue a girl like me. Or the type of guys who pursue girls, period. Maybe my whole only-child control issues stretch to the area of dating, as well.

So then I started thinking about it--created "Dana's Ideal Guy" and imagined two scenarios: one where he pursues me, in similar ways that I've been pursued in the past, and one where I think I'm all hot and sexy and awesome and pursue--or, in other words, control. Connnnntrrroooolllllll. And I was sort of surprised to realize that I even felt creeped out with Imaginary Ideal Man calling out to me on the street, or writing a solicitous email. I MUCH preferred the scenario where Imaginary Me said, "I like you. Come over here."

So then I was all, "well, what you need for that to happen is to start saying 'I like you. Come over here.'"

It was a little disappointing, initially, to sort of give up on that dream of being the crush object, but the more time I've had to live with it the more comfortable it seems.

I'm not saying this IS how you should feel, it's just the weird crazy thought process that happened to me.

Comments

[info]everywastedkiss wrote:
Mar. 24th, 2008 04:11 am (UTC)
I have the only-child syndrome in dating too. I completely understand where you're coming from.
[info]worldforawhile wrote:
Mar. 24th, 2008 04:45 am (UTC)
I am relieved and yet bummed that you feel the same way.
[info]everywastedkiss wrote:
Mar. 24th, 2008 04:47 am (UTC)
Hey - it happens, yeah? I thought I was the only one, though so I am relieved yet bummed as well. Maybe we can pioneer new ideas to help future dateless-only-children. :)
[info]dachelle wrote:
Mar. 24th, 2008 04:39 am (UTC)
I've never been pursued, and I've always thought it would be lovely to be the object of someone's crush, but I'm an only child with control issues as well, so maybe I would find it strange if it happened? I don't know. Of course, I've never successfully pursued anyone either. It would be nice if there was some sort of third option out there. I'm really sick of rejection.
[info]worldforawhile wrote:
Mar. 24th, 2008 04:44 am (UTC)
Right. I have also never really successfully pursued someone, but I'm hoping it's because my "pursuit" heretofore involved brief initial outward interest feelers from me, then a hasty retreat to a safe zone where I waited to be pursued. I think I wanted to have it both ways, and I was making it a lot harder for myself because of that.
[info]dachelle wrote:
Mar. 24th, 2008 04:48 am (UTC)
That's probably true. I, on the other hand, have had many of those awkward encounters where I ask a guy out and he tells me he doesn't like me in that way. But he'd still like to be friends! They'd always like to be friends. Blech.
[info]worldforawhile wrote:
Mar. 24th, 2008 04:52 am (UTC)
Guys never want to be my friend. I could never figure that one out. The only guy friends I have are my friends' husbands or my gays. I always envied girls like you, with the guy friends, because I thought that was at least one step closer to boyfriend!
[info]dachelle wrote:
Mar. 24th, 2008 05:10 am (UTC)
Oh, no. The friend zone is a bad place to be. It basically says, hey, I think you're an awesome person with absolutely no sex appeal. And if you, like me, never really get over your crushes, you have the added trauma of seeing your crush get it on with other girls, and having him talk to you about it because you're his friend, right?

This is why I no longer have guy friends.
[info]maliekai wrote:
Mar. 24th, 2008 05:43 am (UTC)
I get this a lot: "You're a GREAT girl, and I still REALLY want to be friends. I can't imagine my life without you. But I don't want to date you." Like, I have heard this EXACT speech at least four times.

Um... thank you?
[info]maliekai wrote:
Mar. 24th, 2008 05:47 am (UTC)
Okay. So. This is a lot of what I've been thinking about lately too. In that, I've always thought it would be so nice to be pursued, etc., but the thing is that I never like the guys who pursue me either. (Not that many of them do. Pursue me, that is. Apparently I am scary.) The guys that I do like are the kinds that tend not to pursue girls, ever, either because they don't need to, or because they are too shy to. So how in the hell is that I am expecting it to go like, Step 1: Me like boy; Step 2: Boy chases me. THAT IS NOT HOW IT HAPPENS.

Either I need to start liking the boys who chase me, which is unlikely and can surely only lead to disappointment, as if I don't even like them to begin with, how am I going to like them in the long run?, OR I need to man up and start chasing the boys. And I don't mean that in a like, "chasing boys" type of way, but in that I need to MAKE MY INTENTIONS KNOWN.

Or just, you know, say hi.

Because I always FEEL like I am coming on way too strong, just way, way too strong, scaring boys off with my neediness and stalker ways, when really, I am about the least needy person I know and boys never know that I like them, and my friends are like, YOU CAN'T TELL. BECAUSE YOU DON'T TALK TO THEM. OR LOOK AT THEM.

That was a whole lot of babbling.
[info]seimaisin wrote:
Mar. 24th, 2008 11:41 am (UTC)
Wow. This is all ... very familiar. I've had a couple of times where guys have pursued me, and both times I've been so creeped out that I ran as far as I could in the opposite direction. It hadn't actually occurred to me that it might be part of my control issues, but now that you say it ... makes a lot of sense.
[info]worldforawhile wrote:
Mar. 24th, 2008 03:32 pm (UTC)
Yeah. I need to credit my BFF [info]k_rock for those control issue insights. Because I had gotten to the realization that I maybe actually didn't like being chased, but I had no idea why! Leave it to the BFFs to tell it straight.
[info]teint_de_neige wrote:
Mar. 24th, 2008 07:25 pm (UTC)
OMG. This is an only child thing? That explains a lot, as I'm one too. I find being pursued to be irritating and overwhelming, to be honest. Especially now that I'm married. I don't even want to be polite about it anymore -- mostly I just want to wave my ring around and yell "Dude, don't you people even check for one of these?"

Anyway. All my best relationships (and by all, I mean 3) were initiated by me. And that includes my marriage. I just know exactly what I want and am exceedingly impatient, so I never really believed in waiting for them to come to me.
[info]thrupenny wrote:
Mar. 24th, 2008 08:48 pm (UTC)
This makes so much sense! I'm not an only child but I definitely have control issues. Being pursued sounds nice in theory but, like so much Romantic Comedy behaviour, is mostly creepy and irritating in real life.
[info]oy_vey_mama wrote:
Mar. 29th, 2008 05:59 pm (UTC)
Hola! I finally read your tl;dr entries. I'm signing up for your classes too. Never thought about the only child/control thing, but...you might just have a point there. Not that I've been pursued that often, but I definitely do like to be in control. Except when I don't want to be in control. Hmmm. I've friended you, but since I can never seem to get in the habit of posting to my own LJ, there's not much to track. Someday I will post. Really! Maybe? ;-)